"We no longer get even lip service from our Democrat representatives. They are happy to be seen arm in arm skipping along with the gay rights pro abortion crowd - but are embarrassed by the traditional American values of Catholics and other traditionally Democratic voters of the 19th Ward.
The only pro-abortion people are those who were given the right to be born. Once you take that from another human, we descend back to the barbarian pagans of the distant past. Not to mention we are effectively Pi**ing on the graves of our Irish ancestors who fought the English to the death to preserve the Catholic faith. Makes alot of people in this neighborhood sick. Time to speak up"
I recall a few years back when candidate Hynes was barred from speaking at Catholic church facilities because of his views on abortion and stem cell research.
ReplyDeleteI bet they are embarassed by us. Some of them at least. They would be much more comfy drinking wine with some north side progressive fags trying to gain their acceptance. Thats what the son of one of our former leaders did.
ReplyDeleteSPRINGFIELD, Ill. • Religious organizations that provide foster care and adoption services are again trying to carve out exceptions to Illinois' new civil unions statute, saying they shouldn't be forced to choose between their values and the law.
ReplyDeleteSupporters of the new law—which gives same-sex couples the same adoption rights as traditional couples—are vowing to keep it intact. Randy Hannig, director of public policy for Equality Illinois, said "this marks the fifth time in a year that our opponents have tried to carve out an exemption for themselves, and all three branches of state government have rejected their argument.”
State Rep. Dwight Kay, R- Edwardsville, again filed legislation that would allow religion based or affiliated adoption agencies with state contracts to decline an adoption or foster family home application, as well as licensure and placement, to anyone in a civil union. State Rep. David Reis, R-Ste. Marie and state Rep. Paul Evans, R-O'Fallon, are co-sponsors of the legislation.
Same-sex couples were granted the same legal rights as married couples under the civil union legislation enacted on June 1. Under the new law, the state insisted that the Belleville Diocese, Catholic Charities and others either allow same-sex couples into their foster and adoptive programs, or lose their state contracts. The groups lost the contracts, as well as their state funding.
"We've lost some of these organizations," Kay said. "The Catholic Church is using their own funds but I don't think they can do it for too long."
Kay said his legislation is "just another common sense bill."
"Religious based childcare done by Catholic and Lutheran organizations has been an integral part of the state of Illinois," Kay said. "It has done a better job of handling child care services and it's done much cheaper."
Kay created this legislation after being approached by several concerned members of the Catholic Church last spring after the civil union bill passed. He said he thinks his legislation has a good chance of passing this session.
“All child welfare agencies that accept public funds to offer adoption and foster care services on behalf of the state should not be allowed to discriminate and need only to weigh the best interests of the child when making placement decisions,” Hannig said.
Under Kay's legislation, if a same-sex couple is declined an adoption or family foster care application, the respective agency is required to refer the prospective parents to the Department of Children and Family Services for a regional agency.
Kay filed similar legislation last May that used identical language to a bill that failed in the Senate.
This bill attempts to undo some of the damage done to Catholic Charities last spring. Yes, Bill Cunninghan voted in favor of the gut job.
DeleteGet a clue! The pols should kiss your ass because you're catholic?!? News flash... Only 33% of people worldwide are christians. Of those, 16% are catholic.
ReplyDeleteYour demographic isn't as important as you'd like it to be.
P.S. Stop the hating. I was always told that hate isn't a Christian value.
We are not talking about the world- we are discussing the "19th Ward of Chicago" like the name of the blog in case you didnt notice. This area has an extremely high number of Catholics and our church has taught for centuries upon centuries that abortion and gay sex is immoral. Heck even 30 years ago these views were widely understood. We have a right to expect those who represent us and profess to be of our religion represent us as we would like. By the way, as always with the left, you play the "hate" card, probably because you left your "race" card in your other coat! And with the left - their "rights" eventually push other peoples rights out.
ReplyDeleteOh ok, well since you come across as so knowledgeable, what percentage of the 19th ward is Catholic? Of those Catholics, what percentage have used birth control and engaged in premarital sex? Identify these heathens and let's pressure our elected officials to pass laws to punish them!! Same with the gays... boy would my life be so much better without them. I do not recall Sr. Cornelia teaching me the immorality of gay sex in 1973. Maybe I was sick that day.
DeleteTo 6:12 am, I was playing devil's advocate. But just to prove I can read, maybe your leaders aren't embarassed by you. Maybe they are so used to you blindly following the Democratic machine, they don't feel they need to pay attention to you anymore. Why would you assume I'm a lefty? Quite the contrary, I've voted Republican 90% of the time for the last 20 years. Also interesting is you just showed your racist tendencies(why else would you bring up race cards). P.S. I'm white.
ReplyDeleteTo 9:47 am, I really don't care what percentage of the ward is Catholic. I don't care what religion anyone in this ward chooses to follow, It's your life, not mine. What I do object to is people pushing their values onto others. Also un-cool would be demanding special treatment because of your race or religion. I'm really not that knowledgeable, just a good fact checker.
I do agree with the posters who wish the candidates would promptly state how they feel on certain issues (so we can all make educated choices). I'm also thankful we live in a country that allows forums to discuss elections.
When you are forced to fund abortion - even at the hospitals of the churches who consider it evil - that is pushing your values on us, and on the unborn child whose rights, and body are being destroyed. With regard to the "race" card, you just played it! You called me racist for suggesting you might play the race card - and in so doing you played the "race" card and referenced my "racist tendencies" - The race card remark was just another example of the liberal tendency to name call and demonize those who disagree with them. You mentioned "hate" - a typical liberal response and followed it up with a "race" remark just as I figured. Calling someone hateful or racist does not make them so. Deal with the subject at hand. The acceptance of everything once considered deviant is now the new "normal" - and those who were once normal are now considered to be "hateful", "racist", "homophobic", blah blah blah.. The fact is that the homosexual activists consider the Catholic Church the number one enemy !
ReplyDeleteExactly who is forcing who to fund abortions? Despite your juvenile, Pee Wee Herman "I know you are but what am I" response....
ReplyDeleteYou brought up race first. In my vast experience with troubled people, I've found that the first person to throw race into a conversation is usually a racist. Therefore, you're probably racist. You are here venting your dislike of anyone not like you.
My point still remains the same. I don't care if you're gay. I don't care if you have an abortion. I don't care what church you go to. It's your life, not mine. If people would mind their own business , a lot of problems would be avoided.
Most of us have friends or family members who are gay. In my opinion it does not make you a good or bad person - it is just who you are. That does not mean that we reward you by allowing you the benefits of "marriage" which is a religious as well as civil union. Civil unions are fair - you get all the same civil rights as married people. But it is not marriage. It also does not make you morally superior supporting the rights of homosexuals to marry. Again you are forcing people to go from a position of tolerance - to acceptance. For Christians, marriage is a holy act. I personally view homosexuality as a vice. Not the worst thing in the world by a long shot, but a vice nonetheless. As William F. Buckley once said "the love that dare not speak it's name has become the love that won't shut the hell up".
ReplyDeleteYou guys have to start referring to Dan Hynes as "Former 19th Ward Resident, Dan Hynes"
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