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The Fifth Shot is in planning now
Moderna CEO warns people may need fourth Covid shot as efficacy of boosters likely to decline over time
PUBLISHED THU, JAN 6 20224:49 PM ESTUPDATED THU, JAN 6 20226:18 PM EST
Spencer Kimball@SPENCEKIMBALL
Moderna CEO Stephane Bancel said the efficacy of boosters against Covid-19 will likely decline over time, and some people may need a fourth shot by the fall.
“I would expect that it’s not going to hold great,” Bancel said, during a Goldman Sachs interview, referring to the strength of the single booster shots.
A random mutation could change the course of the pandemic again, Bancel warned.
A nurse prepares a syringe with a dose of the Moderna coronavirus disease (COVID-19) vaccine at Enfermera Isabel Zendal hospital in Madrid, Spain, July 23, 2021.
Juan Medina | Reuters
Moderna CEO Stephane Bancel on Thursday said the efficacy of boosters against Covid-19 will likely decline over time, and people may need a fourth shot in the fall to increase their protection.
Bancel said people who received their boosters last fall will likely have enough protection to get them through the winter, when new infections surge as people gather indoors to escape the cold.
However, Bancel said the efficacy of boosters will probably decline over the course of several months, similar to what happened with the first two doses. The Moderna chief was interviewed by Goldman Sachs during the investment bank’s health-care CEO conference.
“I will be surprised when we get that data in the coming weeks that it’s holding nicely over time — I would expect that it’s not going to hold great,” Bancel said, referring to the strength of the booster shots.
An unprecedented surge of infections from the highly contagious omicron variant is currently spreading worldwide. In the U.S., the seven-day average is now more than 574,000 new cases daily, according to a CNBC analysis of data from Johns Hopkins University.
The Moderna CEO said governments, including the U.K. and South Korea, are already ordering the doses in preparation. “I still believe we’re going to need boosters in the fall of ’22 and forward,” Bancel said, adding that people who are older or have underlying health conditions might need annual boosters for years to come.
“We have been saying that we believe first this virus is not going away,” Bancel said. “We’re going to have to live with it.”
Moderna published preliminary data last month that showed its currently authorized 50 microgram booster shot increased the antibodies that block infection from omicron 37-fold. A 100 microgram booster increased those antibodies 83-fold.
Booster shots are playing an increasingly important role in public health strategies to control the virus, with protection from the original two shots having taken a significant blow from omicron.
Data from the United Kingdom found that Moderna and Pfizer’s two-dose vaccines are only about 10% effective at preventing symptomatic infection from omicron 20 weeks after the second dose.
The same study, published by the U.K. Health Security Agency, found that booster doses are up to 75% effective at preventing symptomatic infection two weeks after receiving the shot.
However, the efficacy of booster shots starts to decline after about four weeks, according to the study. Boosters were 55% to 70% effective at preventing infection at weeks five to nine, and 40% to 50% effective 10 weeks after receiving the shot.
Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla told CNBC last month that people will likely need a fourth dose, and the shot may be needed sooner than expected due to omicron’s virulence.
Bancel, during the Goldman Sachs interview, said omicron could accelerate the transition from the acute crisis caused by the virus to an endemic phase where enough people have immune protection so that Covid isn’t as disruptive to public life.
However, he also cautioned against predictions, noting that omicron, with its dozens of mutations, took most of the scientific community by surprise. The data so far indicates that omicron is more transmissible but less severe than past strains.
However, a random mutation could change the course of the pandemic again, Bancel said.
“What is totally impossible to predict, is there a new mutation coming in a day, a week, three months that is worse in terms of severity of disease,” he said. “That’s a piece that we’ll have to just be cautious about.”
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Breakthrough,, that is common. Why am I not hearing about the people who got it and recovered, with no trip to the doctor, no medication, just survived,,??
ReplyDeleteWhy are there no reports about those people getting it again? I'm not seeing Breakthrough Cases in the people who have natural antibodies.
Howcumizat?
And WATCH how you interpret graphs that show
Unvaccinated. How they count people is dishonest. If you get sick less than two Weeks after your last jab,you are Not Vaccinated.
So, get the jab and get sick because of it and go for help, you count as unvaccinated.
Howboutthat
"Why am I not hearing about the people who got it and recovered, with no trip to the doctor, no medication, just survived,,??"
DeleteBecause of that group just mentioned I feel the Government has a big error in their statistics?
MY friends family has 10+ people that didnt want him around at Christmas dinner since he was the only one not vacinated.. Dinner got canceled 2 days before because all the vacinated people got it. Same thing in my family. Why do so many vacinated people get it?
I haven't had it. I may have had it. Another friend of mine , his father was a doctor and said what a wasste of time flu shots are because the flu keep changing during the season. That friend didnt get vacinated but did get Covid for 3 weeks in August. He said he's glad he never got vacinated because now his body made the correct antibodies. (CDC claims the correct anti bodies are 13 times more powerful than the vaccine.) Some other Government doctor said the reinfection rate is .3 of a %. If you get it and get over it and it may take a month or two to get over it there is almost a 0(zero) chance you'll get it again.
There is something else in the vacine? I dont know what. When Biden and Government official keep pushing to get vacinated it remindes me of "come up here and drink you coolaid from Jungle Jim Jones at Jones town.
Is it population control?
Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson and Johnson were given full immunity by the US Government from any lawsuits related to their Covid vaccines. Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson and Johnson have reused to provide covid vaccines to any country that did not provide them the same protection from lawsuits. Can you name any product manufactured by any company where the manufacturer can’t be held liable for damages caused by a product they produced. If the vaccines worked so well or were so safe, why the need for immunity from lawsuits?
ReplyDeleteYou are a fool if you took any shots for this bullshit strain of flu. My wife and I had it and it was just a little worse than the regular flu, but that might have been our imagination due to the 24/7 nonstop bullshit from the media and everywhere else about how you will die without the shot. You know its bullshit when you never hear any mention about diet, exercise, vitamins and natural immunity. This was 1 big psych ops
ReplyDeleteSeems to me a vaccine was something you took once, a shot such as a tetanus or flue shot was something that was short term and would require a booster or new formulation to protect you from the latest strains. So why are we calling this a vaccine if it requires a booster every 5 to 6 months.
ReplyDeleteVaccine doesn't work my Aunt caught covid again after being vaccinated plus 2 boosters.
DeleteNot a lot of studies regarding natural immunity after having covid. If covid has a better than 99% survival rate and a reinfection rate of less than 1% (per an Israeli study) I’ll reuse the jab after all living in Chicago I have a greater chance of being shot, something the mayor seems to care little about.
ReplyDeleteLet's just get the shot and get back to normal
ReplyDeleteWell a lot of people got the sho and still got Covid and are spreading Covid, so how does getting the shot return us to normal?
Delete"Normal"! Never gona to happen. Our rulers love the power to tell us want we may or may not do. Too many sheep have given up thinking for themselves.
DeleteRemember, the "vaccine" is not a true vaccine like Polio, Smallpox and the like. It is a mRNA-based inoculation that has short term efficacy and UNKNOWN long term side effects.
ReplyDeleteNotice ALL the focus is on "vaccine" and not treatments like Hydroxychloroquine, Ivermectin, Mono nucleal antibodies and other stuff.
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